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Let's face it. Being broke sucks. Banks and other institutions charge additional fees for those who don't have a certain balance in their accounts, for transactions. It's like they're punishing people for being poor. Where's the logic in that? Or is it strictly a heartless thing to do?

This past Saturday, I was supposed to help my friends Jon and Cassie shear some sheep. I never got a hold of them. So I ended up at Brother Bear's Coffee in Yellow Springs. I thought I had enough in my checking account to cover the $2 cost of a cup of coffee. The transaction went through. The next day, I checked my account. I was in the red, and I thought, "Oh, shit!" The next business day, I was charged a $37 NSF fee, just as I would be charged for an overdrafted check

So I just paid $40 for a cup of coffee.

Yes, I did opt in for overdraft protection. I can go in the red somewhat if I need to. But if I make a series of transactions, I get dinged for each of those transactions. Money-grubbing bastards.

Date: 2011-07-07 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bikergeek.livejournal.com
Banks love that stuff. Rather than deny a transaction, they'll "courtesy pay" it and charge you out the ass on fees.

Reward them by putting your money somewhere else, once you have some again.

Date: 2011-07-07 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autographedcat.livejournal.com
Cracked.com, of all people, did a great article on this very thing not too long ago:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-things-nobody-tells-you-about-being-poor/

Date: 2011-07-07 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuzzyvanman.livejournal.com
From that (rather interesting) article:

Because having a checking account while poor doesn't just mean you have to be responsible and good at math -- you have to be perfect. Meticulous, flawless record keeping is the difference between surviving and having the bank seize your next paycheck.

Jim, my suggestion is to be pissed at the bank but funnel that into meticulous record keeping so that at any time, you know exactly how much is in your account. There shouldn't be any "I thought I had...." You should *know*. There's lots of apps that will help with record keeping, but a simple memo pad and pencil is all you need. You should be thinking: "Here's something *I* can do to keep those 'money-grubbing bastards' from getting any more of my money.

Date: 2011-07-07 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athenawindsong.livejournal.com
Ultimately, it's your responsibility to know what you have in the bank. You agreed to their terms of service when you entrusted them with your money so they are contractually obligated to charge you an overdraft fee. If you don't want to be charged a fee, don't put your money in a bank that includes it in their terms of service.

Date: 2011-07-07 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athenawindsong.livejournal.com
BTW, I use Chase Bank. They have an online feature that not only calculates how much money you have, but also what is pending so you know how much you don't have. I view it daily.

Date: 2011-07-07 10:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] billroper
My bank sent me constant pleading e-mails to opt-in for their "valuable" overdraft protection on my debit card after Congress passed legislation requiring them to do so rather than automatically pay the debit card charge and hit me with a huge fee.

I ignored them. Because overdraft protection is primarily valuable to the bank, not so much to the consumer.

As you've discovered...

I'm sorry.

Date: 2011-07-08 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pondside.livejournal.com
I'm sorry you got caught in this.

Date: 2011-07-08 11:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tollermom
I don't know if you have Huntington Bank near you, but they have a seriously handy feature called a 24-hour Grace Period. If you go overdrawn, you get a notice (email, or I think you can do request text messages) and if you cover the overdraft w/in the next 24 hours, they refund the overdraft fee.

I have two checking accounts and I've occasionally used the card for one when I meant to use the other, only to realize the one didn't have enough money. Oops. Being able to cover the mistake w/out the $$ overdraft fee is a very nice feature.

Date: 2011-07-08 11:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tollermom
Oh, and another suggestion... when you _know_ money is razor-thin? Go to the ATM, verify that you have enough money to cover anything that's pending, then withdraw enough cash for running money. Then you pay cash for the $2 cup of coffee and don't risk the overdraft charge. I hate carrying cash, but I'll do it when I know money is tight and I need to be uber-cautious. When the cash is gone, I'm done.

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